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 LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?

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PostSubject: LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?    LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling  any advice ?  Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2024 12:40 am

Hi , can anyone teach me the basics of what I need , how to power and use mini LED lights in 1/6th projects ?

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PostSubject: Re: LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?    LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling  any advice ?  Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2024 5:35 am

What lights you use and how you use them depends on the sort of project you have in mind.

Are you looking to construct a diorama for a permanent display? Are you constructing a set for photography?

Are you looking at using LED lights as accent lights for effects, or for full elimination of the setting?

Are you looking for full bright even lighting, or for shadowy mood lighting with color accents?

What setting are you thinking of using the lights in? A normal room, like a kitchen or living room? Something bizarre like a laboratory or a cave?

Are you looking to install permanent lighting, or something temporary that you can use for multiple projects?

I believe that BAMComix and Rogue-Trooper use LED strip lighting powered by mains as the primary lighting source for their dioramas.

I use battery-operated mini LED lights as accent lights. I use inexpensive battery-operated holiday string lights (or sometimes mains-powered Christmas tree lights) that I pick up around Christmas time and either build them in to my settings, like here:

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Or I just string them up across the walls and ceiling as a visible part of the decor:

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Or integrate colored holiday lights in to the structure of a diorama as you build it. In this case, I wanted a blueish light to suggest electrical arcs inside a dynamo. I used some blue lights and some white lights behind blue tinted glass and plastic:

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For this one, I used white LED string lights inserted in the nooks and crannies of plastic dollhouse furniture to create a back-bar:

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I've tried using battery-operated colored LED wire as accent lighting a few times, but the inexpensive LED wire I purchased is not very bright, so the scene as a whole needs to be pretty dark for the LED wire to even show up:

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The red light behind the figure is from a small battery-operated LED bicycle light.

For each of my projects, the LED lights are supplementary lighting, not primary lighting. My primary lighting for all of these scenes is one or two basic desk lamps angled so as to light the scene without creating too much glare. I set my camera exposure compensation to -1-1/3 f/stops to reduce the brightness of the scene as recorded.

For nearly all of my diorama photos, I use one or two LED desk lamps for primary lighting, with LED battery-operated holiday lights built in to the setting or hanging in the setting to provide background ambience.

I also use mini-LED battery-powered torches (flashlights) and bicycle lights or camping lights a lot. I turn them on and set them behind figures and objects in the scenes to provide backlight, rim light, or highlights among the shadows.

In this pic:

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... the red light behind the mesh is my red bicycle light shining on a red piece of cloth. The figure is illuminated with a small hand-held torch (flashlight). I hold a folded clear plastic sandwich bag over the lens of the torch to diffuse the light and reduce the intensity. I'm holding the camera in one hand and a flashlight in the other, moving the light around to try to create atmospheric lighting on the figure without illuminating too much of the thrown-together janky background, while trying to hand-hold a 1/30 or slower exposure.

This may not be what you're asking, but that's the extent of my experience using mini LED lights in 1/6-scale projects.

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PostSubject: Re: LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?    LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling  any advice ?  Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2024 7:08 am

Great review Dave oh how you use the lights, clever stuff. I have a could of led strips that I glued into the ceiling of the Ammo arms, They are simple plug in type. They're great for illuminating the the darker parts of the pub.
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PostSubject: Re: LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?    LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling  any advice ?  Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2024 10:44 am

As Dave said I use a dimmable mains powered LED strip light. It's attached just above the study dio walls on an angled panel.
I've had to make panels to fit inside the two skylights so that the Led strip is the only source of lighting.
It's ok , but I'm always on the lookout for something better lol!

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Rogue-Trooper wrote:
As Dave said I use a dimmable mains powered LED strip light. It's attached just above the study dio walls on an angled panel.
I've had to make panels to fit inside the two skylights so that the Led strip is the only source of lighting.
It's ok , but I'm always on the lookout for something better lol!

You should assist your led's with a desk lamp Chris. A piece of tracing paper in front of the lamp would be a great defusser.
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PostSubject: Re: LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling any advice ?    LED lights for use in 1/6th Modelling  any advice ?  Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2024 12:04 pm

Thanks for all those detailed replies , sorry , but perhaps I mislead you all a little . I wasn`t looking to light large areas , but to use on my figures themselves . I am currently looking to mount some lights on the sides of My Astronaut teams helmets , and maybe the custom Moonraker I am working on . I have seen some small 5mm and 3 mm ones on Amazon , they come with a 9V battery clip , but says they are 12V ? Very confusing . Some of the Amazon reviews have suggested they get hot and have melted some of their projects . There was as I recall , a few people using them on lightsabres too . They looked good .

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BAMComix wrote:
Rogue-Trooper wrote:
As Dave said I use a dimmable mains powered LED strip light. It's attached just above the study dio walls on an angled panel.
I've had to make panels to fit inside the two skylights so that the Led strip is the only source of lighting.
It's ok , but I'm always on the lookout for something better lol!

You should assist your led's with a desk lamp Chris. A piece of tracing paper in front of the lamp would be a great defusser.

Thanks Dal  cheers  I use a desk lamp with a "daylight" bulb, but never thought of the tracing paper thing.

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Chip wrote:
...but to use on my figures themselves . I am currently looking to mount some lights on the sides of My Astronaut teams helmets....

Ah, okay! Tricky super-miniature lighting, then. Maybe of the sort model railroaders use to light up locomotives and railcars and tiny buildings and accessories.

In theory, LED lights themselves generate no heat. However, the wires can get warm. I had a battery pack for inexpensive string lights get quite hot once when the switch on the battery pack shorted out. That only happened once, on a "dollar store" light. I've never had a problem when paying a reasonable price: $5 or more.

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Here is an online tutorial about installing LED lights in action figures:

https://mintconditioncustom.com/installingleds/

Here is a related tutorial about soldering connections when installing LED lights that also contains some information about finding and selecting LED lights and accessories:

https://mintconditioncustom.com/howtosolder/

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Thanks for those Dave .

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