BAM'S 1/6 Randoms!

Rogue-Trooper wrote:

I love that picture

Now cut ya grass

Thanks Chris , now shhhh, lets have no more said about the grass..., do you want me to lose my jungle??

The girls out on a patrol ride in one of the jeeps hu. I’m really liking this picture and even more because it’s outside. Man your grass is way long.

SCU_HQ wrote:

They're offering up quite a feast for the mosquitoes out there in the bush!

Fun shot. That Jeep is too cool! It seems perfectly scaled for the Phicen figs, more so even than it is for Joe/AM. Perhaps that has to do with the flexibility of the Phicens. They can slouch more realistically into seated positions than the more rigid traditional action figures.

Also, I'm impressed at how you take your Phicen figs outside and put them in scenarios like this. I have often read that the seamless figures are fragile and prone to staining easily. Has the durability improved since this style of figure was first released? Or are there various types now, some of which hold up better to "action figure" applications?

Thanks! Yeah the phicen's really are fantastic for poitioning, and because of the stainless steel skeleton they have they will hold it too. Yeah, they do stain, but handling hem removes stains pretty quickly. The phicen's I use are a vast improvement on the first wave. They had plastic skeletons, and would snap vey easily, also they made an awful clicking noise everytime you moved them! The skin has also been greatly improved. I know they are expensive, but I think they are great value for what they are.

Prof Gangrene Fan wrote:

The girls out on a patrol ride in one of the jeeps hu. I’m really liking this picture and even more because it’s outside. Man your grass is way long.

From what I read about phicens, everybody seems to complain about the "skin" being indelibly marked by certain clothing, even if it's left on for only a short time.
These things cost quite a lot for the body alone, then there's a head-sculpt and clothing to add.
Your collection must represent quite a considerable investment Dal?

I think it's unavoidable to not say that they are certainly sexualised to a fairly obvious extent, (even past being just attractive) but then who would want to buy an ugly female figure?
Do you have, or are you planning to ever buy any male versions or do you think the contrast to your VAMs would be too great?

I you don't mind my chiming in, I never considered the phicen male figures until i saw a diorama done by a fellow from Taiwan. He did some WWII scenes from the South Pacific and a lot of the figures were topless male phicens and they looked very realistic in hand-to-hand combat scenes with Japanese soldiers and US Marines.

Definitely not interested in the anatomy of male figures below the belt, but the seamless arms and necks made for very realistic scenes

gibri wrote:

the seamless arms and necks made for very realistic scenes  

That very factor works against VAMs and to a somewhat lesser extent MAMs if you are modelling situations where the men would be shirtless due to the climate, ....such as the South Pacific theatre of war as you mention.
That's a particular area I am very interested in, and you either have to just go with and accept all those obvious joints and articulations of VAM/MAM, or invest in expensive phicens for their far greater realism.

If the board will pardon me as I get all philosophical for a moment, I kind of enjoy working with what is obviously a model. (Even a "toy" if you will.) That's the idea and the excitement.

Whilst the results are most admirable, as things become closer and closer and even virtually undetectable from actual reality, for me some of that treasured childhood wonderment is lost, and I do think that a sense of nostalgia plays a large part in having our collections of VAM/MAM.

No one would ever argue that phicens don't outclass our figures when it comes to looking more like a real person, but can they really recreate that something we are trying to recapture by even having a group of figures as we all do?
Or are they just too "new".
Their considerable expense will ensure that they never become childhood toys, as was VAM/MAM.
Which means they will only ever be adult purchases, .....and used for much different purposes!


P.S. gibri....are there any photos online of those dioramas you mention?

I love it all. I am also a model railroad fan and there are certainly two camps there as well. Those who want full true scale accuracy and detail and those who prefer the toy-like, toy trains and aren't concerned so much with scale, detail and authenticity. like i said, I love it all -- same with Action Figures.

The joints have never bothered me much, but I also do love all the improvements in detail, accuracy, authenticity, fidelity to scale and so on. And while i love it all, i also think never (or rarely) the twain shall meet.

Here's a link to Ko Cheng Fang's (?) work as posted at The Sixth Division:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/onesixthnet/pacific-war-t24737.html

Thanks,
Brian

That certainly is some really amazing work! That's for posting the link!

Amazing how people spend so effort making models look like reality.
Sort of the reverse of that film "Welcome to Marwen" where the director and crew took such pains to make real people look like model figures?

LeStryge wrote:

From what I read about phicens, everybody seems to complain about the "skin" being indelibly marked by certain clothing, even if it's left on for only a short time.
These things cost quite a lot for the body alone, then there's a head-sculpt and clothing to add.
Your collection must represent quite a considerable investment Dal?

I think it's unavoidable to not say that they are certainly sexualised to a fairly obvious extent, (even past being just attractive) but then who would want to buy an ugly female figure?
Do you have, or are you planning to ever buy any male versions or do you think the contrast to your VAMs would be too great?

As I said, skin staining can be a problem, but there are steps you can take to reduce this, boiling the dye from the clothes is a major factor, for some reason the companies who produce the clothes don't seem to do this.
Yeah, they have cost a fair bit to put them together, but no more than lets say trying to put a vintage vam and outfit together if you are looking for only vintage parts? Plus if you do it over a long time, then again, its not a huge layout.
As for the male's, I have indeed thought about it, but for me its all to do with fining the right head for a character, and as most of the are based on film stars, I still haven't found one yet that i like.

gibri wrote:

I you don't mind my chiming in, I never considered the phicen male figures until i saw a diorama done by a fellow from Taiwan. He did some WWII scenes from the South Pacific and a lot of the figures were topless male phicens and they looked very realistic in hand-to-hand combat scenes with Japanese soldiers and US Marines.

Definitely not interested in the anatomy of male figures below the belt, but the seamless arms and necks made for very realistic scenes

I have to agree bri

My point about them being expensive was to say that phicens are never going to be kid's toys as VAM/MAM were. We collectors of same probably buy them with the thought in mind that they are what we had as kids.

Phicens, or at least the ones I've seen are bought by adults, and if the accessories available for them online are anything to go by, then sexuality is a large factor.
The accessories and some of the clothing offered are things you'd probably only see for real in sex shops or for sale on adult sites online.
Seems there is now such a fantasy genre as "toy porn" from some of the set-ups posted on the net.
DEFINITELY NSFW!

LeStryge wrote:

My point about them being expensive was to say that phicens are never going to be kid's toys as VAM/MAM were. We collectors of same probably buy them with the thought in mind that they are what we had as kids.

Phicens, or at least the ones I've seen are bought by adults, and if the accessories available for them online are anything to go by, then sexuality is a large factor.
The accessories and some of the clothing offered are things you'd probably only see for real in sex shops or for sale on adult sites online.
Seems there is now such a fantasy genre as "toy porn" from some of the set-ups posted on the net.
DEFINITELY NSFW!        

As I have said in a previous post, I cannot speak for all phicen collectors and what they do with theirs? The market is full of adult themed clothing, which in many cases is really very strange to me?
Mine are solely brought to be soldiers and agents within BAM HQ., and the challenge for me is finding clothes that reflect them as soldiers or agents of some kind.
On the whole, yes they are adult toys, much like HotToys, Dam Toys and the like (Which I also have quite a few of) which are not meant for children. As an adult collector of figures, I find them very useful and great additions. Also it offers great variation for background characters in my pub shoots. As a kid my toys were made up of all brands, so now as an adult my collection reflects this.
I hope you continue to enjoy the pics I post, but can I please ask, that this be the last time the 'Sexual themed' questions about my particular phicens is raised

PLEASE understand my posts were in NO WAY AT ALL related to YOUR figures, or what YOU do to with them.
My profound apologies if that was in any way implied.It was far from my intention I assure you.
I was referring to internet uses and such things are readily found there on sites devoted to 1/6 scale modelling.
Phicens are a new phenomenon and I thought therefore open for general discussions.
Again my sincere apologies for any upset I may have inadvertently caused.
I will of course refrain from any such references in future.

LeStryge wrote:

PLEASE understand my posts were in NO WAY AT ALL related to YOUR figures, or what YOU do to with them.
My profound apologies if that was in any way implied.It was far from my intention I assure you.
I was referring to internet uses and such things are readily found there on sites devoted to 1/6 scale modelling.
Phicens are a new phenomenon and I thought therefore open for general discussions.
Again my sincere apologies for any upset I may have inadvertently caused.
I will of course refrain from any such references in future.  

No offense taken my friend and it is an interesting topic of debate, but could I ask that you start it in off topic perhaps? Many thanks

Blondeactionman wrote:

No offense taken my friend and it is an interesting topic of debate, but could I ask that you start it in off topic perhaps? Many thanks

That's actually a good idea to have a "general" Phicen/TBLeague topic. I have a number of questions... and the occasional "editorial observation"... about the figures myself. Are you gonna start that topic, LeStryge, or shall I?

FWIW, the TBLeague/Phicen figures who have joined the Agents of BAM have always seemed to me to be fully integrated into the "action figure" realm, adding a significant level of believability and visual interest as the "girl agents."

Plus, as I mentioned in another topic, the Phicen figs fit really well in to the 1:6 scale vehicles!

EDIT: A "general interest" Phicen / TBLeague / Seamless figure discussion has been started: HERE

SCU_HQ wrote:

Blondeactionman wrote:

No offense taken my friend and it is an interesting topic of debate, but could I ask that you start it in off topic perhaps? Many thanks

That's actually a good idea to have a "general" Phicen/TBLeague topic. I have a number of questions... and the occasional "editorial observation"... about the figures myself. Are you gonna start that topic, LeStryge, or shall I?

FWIW, the TBLeague/Phicen figures who have joined the Agents of BAM have always seemed to me to be fully integrated into the "action figure" realm, adding a significant level of believability and visual interest as the "girl agents."

Plus, as I mentioned in another topic, the Phicen figs fit really well in to the 1:6 scale vehicles!

Cheers David . as I said, who ever starts te topic, I am sure it will be a great point of interest

Steve Shadows by Blonde Actionman, on Flickr

The darkness of the picture really works Dal.

Sneaking around after hours at BAM HQ? Is this an authorized late-nite visitor?

Cool lighting!

Many thanks guys! I didn't think it would work without lighting, but I was happy with the end result. Right place, right time

Great shot Dal!

inntruderr61 wrote:

Great shot Dal!

Cheers Jim!

Checking the raptor paddock. by Blonde Actionman, on Flickr

All safe. by Blonde Actionman, on Flickr